Last Friday, Social Actions hosted a conference call for its 50+ action sources and other partners to discuss the launch of a new platform called All for Good (event description and list of 60+ participants posted here
The purpose of the call was to:
• Provide an overview of the All for Good platform as we understand it;
• Invite our partners to share their thoughts and experiences to date with All for Good;
• Provide an open forum to discuss All for Good and other opportunities to work more intentionally and closely with one another; and
• Describe the next steps Social Actions is taking to ensure that our initiative and All for Good do not emerge as competing or incompatible aggregations of opportunities to make a difference.
Below is a summary of key takeaways followed by full transcripts of the call and of the Social Actions chat window that was available for text messages during the call.
Key takeaways ~ conference call
• Both Social Actions and All for Good are committed to exploring ways to work together, with an eye toward aiding everyone.
• All for Good is an open source aggregation of volunteer opportunities in the U.S. built with support from The Craigslist Foundation, Google, and nonprofit partners. All for Good’s dataset can be accessed directly through allforgood.org and via an open API, which third party developers can use to embed volunteer opportunities in websites and mobile applications.
• Between May 2008 and June 2009, Social Actions’ Founder and Executive Director Peter Deitz met, spoke with, and corresponded with staff at Craigslist Foundation and Google. On these occasions, Peter explained Social Actions in detail and proposed numerous ways for Craigslist Foundation, Google, and Social Actions to work together.
• While the process behind All for Good’s development has not consistently been viewed as open or collaborative, there is optimism that this will improve going forward.
Key takeaways ~ text chat
• Strong support for regularly-scheduled conversations like this one for the sector;
• A desire for coordination and collaboration among aggregations serving this sector; and
• Requests for clarifications about All for Good and the process to get involved.
Social Actions’ next steps
• Social Actions is excited to use the All for Good API to mirror the volunteer opportunities that have been aggregated through this new platform. Integrating with the All for Good API will add a number of new action sources to our open source database and will immediately make the volunteer opportunities listed on All for Good available to the collection of web and mobile applications that are powered by the Social Actions API.
• We are building the capacity to consume XML feeds written for the All for Good platform so that organizations that want to partner with Social Actions and with All for Good won’t need to create two different kinds of feeds.
• We are inviting Google developers to participate in the Social Actions Developers Google group and will encourage innovative and genuine collaborations between our and the All for Good developer communities.
• We will follow up with All for Good leadership to ensure that as they expand into other forms of action for aggregation, they consider the Social Actions API as a resource.
• Social Actions will continue to innovate ahead of the curve, working with our developer groups to come up with innovative applications and hopefully inspiring new directions for the All for Good platform.
• Peter Deitz will be thinking out loud as a social entrepreneur about the All for Good product and what it represents in terms of opportunities for Social Actions to do more, and also the All for Good process and what that has been like.
• Social Actions will be convening conference calls regularly in the future to explore what genuine collaboration can and should look like in the nonprofit tech community both from the technical perspective (XML feeds, APIs, etc) but also from a mission-focused perspective.
All for Good website:
Social Actions website:
Social Actions’ presentation to Google, September 2008 (video):
Social Actions Developer resources:
Transcript ~ conference call
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Thank you very much, everyone, for joining this conference call. My name is Christine Egger, I'm a founding team member of Social Actions and I look forward to facilitating today's conservation. Peter Deitz is of course here as well, the founder and executive director of Social Actions. Hello, Peter. [Hello] There unfortunately isn't time for everyone to say hello, but we encourage you to use the Chat window to introduce yourselves. That's at "socialactions.com forward-slash chat", and you're encouraged to click "edit nickname" in the lower left corner so your name appears next to your messages. We'll do our best to monitor and respond to that chat activity during the call and will be sure to incorporate your questions, comments, and suggestions into the notes and follow-up. Welcome -- this is a fantastic gathering of many of the most innovative organizations in the online philanthropy and volunteerism community. I want to specifically thank those of you calling in from India, Great Britain, South Africa, the Netherlands, and other regions far from US time zones. We really appreciate your joining this conversation at all hours of the day and night. And we want to thank Jonathan Greenblatt for joining today's call. Jonathan was a member of the Obama administration transition team and has been an important leading member of All for Good, or Footprint, working closely with Susan Nesbitt at Craigslist Foundation, and with developers at Google. Two quick notes: In the interest of reducing background noise, please consider muting your phone on your own handset or by entering *6; to unmute your line, press *6 again. And lastly, we would like to record the call, to help in preparing the transcript which we will publish online. I’ll pause here in case there are any strong objections but if there are none we’ll start recording now.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: The purpose of today’s call is to provide an overview of the All for Good, or Footprint, project as we understand it; a forum for sharing your thoughts and experiences with that project; and to describe the steps that Social Actions is taking to ensure compatibility and collaboration with All for Good. And again it’s of course to provide an open discussion about this initiative and other opportunities to work more intentionally and closely with one another. I’m going to turn the mic over to Peter. He’ll provide a very brief description of Social Actions, both for the benefit of those who aren’t closely familiar with us but also to clarify the distinctions between our initiative and All for Good. Peter?
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: I’ll jump right into things here. Thank you, Christine, for the introduction and thank you everyone for joining us. This is really a milestone for us, to be able to bring together such a diverse group around our project and around other developments in the sector. Quickly, for those who are less familiar with Social Actions, we are an open source database of opportunities to make a difference. We’ve been at this for two years, and we aggregate service opportunities online of course, but also donation opportunities, petitions, events, campaigns and groups that people can join, microloans, and other individual actions that people can take to effect change in their communities. Our database is fully open source, both the code and the dataset, and we encourage third party developers to build applications off of the Social Actions API. We currently have 50+ partners contributing to the network and we’re really proud of the international diversity of those partners as well as the breadth of forms of actions. Our goal really is to create a massive cloud of actions people can take in any issue, and then to encourage third party developers to slice that cloud, in a way, and to embed those actions into the social networks, blogs, mobile phones that people use every day. I’ll also mention that there are 35 applications that are actively distributing this dataset across the web. We register about 20,000 click-throughs from our dataset to our partners’ websites monthly, and there are about 1,500 searches directly from search.socialactions.com to our partners’ sites. At this point I’m going to go right into a description of All for Good as I understand it, as Christine and I understand it, and segway from there to a brief timeline of interactions with the initiative. I’m definitely grateful to Jonathan from All for Good joining us, and Jonathan I’d encourage you in the next part of the call to clarify anything I say that might be not full or accurate as you would determine. What I understand All for Good to be is an open source database of opportunities to make a difference specifically, for now, serving the volunteerism sector in the United States. This is a project that has been built by volunteers for the most part working closely with staff -- members – of Obama’s presidential transition team, staff at Google, and staff at Craigslist Foundation. The project has been built for the most part behind closed doors so there have been a lot of rumors or discussion about All for Good, previously known as Footprint, but this is not a project that has been built out in the open and that is certainly a distinguishing characteristic between All for Good and Social Actions. We understand that the project does have an interest in aggregating and distributing forms of action that are distinct from volunteerism, so at some point they might expand into donations and petitions and other forms of service, broadly defined. The project – this might be news for some folks – it isn’t formally a Google project, it isn’t formally a White House project, it’s an initiative that’s going to live in an independent organization called Our Good Works, and Jonathan can tell us more about that subsequently. The one point that I want to make very strongly and clearly is that we want the story of how All for Good and the process that led to it to be reflected in All for Good’s materials but also in the press and media coverage that will accompany its formal launch later this month. While nothing on the About Us page is factually incorrect, we do feel that there is more context to this initiative that we would like to see disclosed. In the full spirit of doing this collaboratively, Jonathan I’m going to invite you to clarify or expand on anything I said that you might feel is off or inaccurate.
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: First of all, it’s really a pleasure to be on the call. I’m grateful for the fact that you’ve been able to organize this, Peter, and I’m grateful for the fact that so many people from across the country and from around the world are participating. And I think it’s heartening to see the convening of so many nonprofit actors from so many different quarters, to have AARP on the same call as The Extraordinaries says something about the breadth and vibrancy of the sector. To my mind that’s very exciting. I think we’re here together at a very propitious time, meaning if you look at all the trends, I think the phenomenon like social entrepreneurship, crowdsourcing, and all the different factors are really evolving and blossoming in a powerful way. Open source also deserves mention. What this administration is doing, I think, is monumental as you mentioned. Again, I’m really encouraged by the – There was a post yesterday I saw on the White House blog about asking for ideas about civic leadership and engagement. There is an open government initiative that is brand new, and I think it heralds a moment of cooperation and collaboration between all of us who are endeavoring in our own different ways to improve upon nonprofit models, engage more people, strengthen communities, and suddenly we have this administration in Washington which is embracing –
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: Jonathan –
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: -- so I think that’s great. So I’d like to preface my comments – what I’d like to do is use this call to draw attention to both – because to your point, Peter, I don’t think this is happening in a vacuum, I think you’re seeing a remarkable marketplace of ideas and initiatives and in my mind that’s just amazing and I would say that in my mind Social Actions really exemplifies that. So I tip my hat –
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Jonathan, this is Christine if I could interrupt. We have just a few more minutes in this section and I want to make sure that Peter’s request to perhaps illuminate any of the background behind All for Good’s coming together as a project. Would you like to make any clarifications in the time you have remaining?
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: Sure. First of all, Peter, I appreciate your background. The initiative called All for Good was inspired by President Obama’s call to service and directly took inspiration from the activities of a number of amazing social entrepreneurs, the call to action. Craig Newmark, in the post he made last year. It’s true that several of us during the Presidential transition came together and said, “Are there ways that we can contribute to the process? Are there ways that we can add value to the sector. I wish we could collaborate with the great work that’s already being done.” So it’s probably better, I would say, and a great use of our time on this call, to focus less on Peter and me dissecting point by point what you have to say and really simply remark on the amazing group of people you’ve been able to assemble and the fact that we at All for Good have created an open source platform that I hope we can collaborate with Social Actions and that we can collaborate with many of the organizations on this call because there are a lot of ways to innovate and improve on what we’ve done and we don’t have all the answers. I think the answers are bottom-up in communities all over the country and if we can get the people on the call involved, the organizations on the call and others not even here I think we’ll all benefit in the sector. And maybe what I can do, Christine, if you’ll allow me, there are people on the call who have been involved who I’d like to recognize. So for example I think I saw Ami Dar –
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: Jonathan I’m going to have to jump in here, I’m sorry –
Christine Egger, Social Action: Jonathan, if you would, we’ll segway into this next section of the call then, inviting our platform partners to share their thoughts and experiences with Social Actions. Many of the people on the call have had experiences with your group and they're welcome to share those here. I’ll repeat, as a reminder, for those who came in a little late, that there is a text chat window open as well at socialactions.com/chat. Feel free to use that. I’ll be monitoring that and pulling in observations and questions from that forum as well. Feel free on the chat window as well to directly ask for a chance to speak and we’ll get to you if at all possible. We’ve got about 15 minutes allotted here for specific thoughts and experiences on All for Good. I’m opening the floor.
John Lyman, Google: This is John Lyman from Google. One thing I just wanted to respond to was – and I do want to hear from others on the call as well – our involvement on this project from day one has been very open. Everything’s been open source and collaborative from day one and we’re excited and happy to work with anybody. The XML code is out there, the API is all open source, and I think anyone can join in who wants to.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Thank you very much.
Andrew Drake, Hands on Network: This is Andrew Drake from Hands on Network, Points of Light. We’ve been working with Jonathan and with John Lyman, people at Craigslist, and have found them to be highly collaborative, have found them to be really easy to work with, and intensely focused on delivering the most good for the most people. So I think it’s a great initiative and they’ve been great partners.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Thank you, Andrew, that’s great to hear.
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: I’d encourage other people to jump in.
Ami Dar, Idealist.org: Hello, this is Ami from Idealist, can you hear me?
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Hi, Ami, yes. Welcome.
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: Hello, Ami.
Ami Dar, Idealist.org: So we have been involved in this project for the last three or four months in a variety of ways. I want to sort of start from the end. At this point we’re involved in the process. We’re feeding our volunteer opportunities into the platform. I’ve also joined the board of the new organization that’s being created to support this. At the same time I don’t want to sugarcoat the fact that the process has not been easy. I think it would be a mistake to come out and say that it’s all been open, collaborative, etc. It has not. It has been pretty difficult, pretty combative. To give just one example there was a Google group that was set up for the partners, and the moment that the group was used to criticize anything, the group was actually shut down and people could not post anything. It was used just for announcements. So it has not been an open process. It hasn’t been a great process. I’m optimistic that going forward, because many of us have actually spoken up, things are much better. I hope that going forward, especially now that there will be an organization, a board, a group that’s actually more formally behind it, and things are more open and more transparent, that things are going to be much better. So I’m optimistic, going forward – there’s a first board meeting coming up in ten days. I think we’ll be able to come out after that and be sort of more formal about the whole thing. Bbut I also want to acknowledge the fact that it hasn’t been a great process for everyone. I don’t think we should sugarcoat that because that would appear false to many people who are part of it.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Thank you, Ami. Any thoughts or experiences from other platform partners? [Pause] At the close of this call, the last 15 minutes will be for an open discussion, but at this point we wanted to create a space for these specific observations.
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: Christine, in the absence of additional comments from platform partners I can go in and describe a little bit about Social Actions’ experience with the organization to date.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Please do.
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: Before I do that again I’ll put out the call to other people on the line, other groups, to share their experiences or thoughts to date on All for Good/Footprint. OK – did I cut someone off? –
Christine Egger, Social Actions: No. Jonathan, I’m reading your text messages and you’ll absolutely have a chance to share your thoughts during a broader discussion later in the call.
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: It just seems like it may be helpful to answer the comments. It depends on what you want. Do you want a dialogue or do you just want people to make – to post comments to a wall, if you will? I’m happy to respond however it’s appropriate, Christine, and again I’m grateful that you’ve organized the call.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: OK. Tom Steinberg’s asking for a quick explanation again of what All for Good is. But again I would like the mic to be passed back to Peter. Peter, please do share the experiences that Social Actions has had because we do want to share that as well, and then explain what the Social Actions and the All for Good platforms are as specifically distinct from each other.
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: I’ll address the question really quickly. All for Good – you can have a look at it at AllforGood.org. It is essentially an aggregation of volunteer opportunities in the U.S. and there’s very rich information about individual volunteer opportunities. You can see them by location or organization and type of volunteer opportunity. Social Actions’ experience to date with the entity that is All for Good hasn’t been collaborative from the start. So I just want to put some facts down on the table so we have them out in the public. First of all, we’ve identified that Craigslist Foundation, Google, and the Obama transition team have been involved in project, as well as other partners. I originally consulted with Susan Nesbitt, Arthur Coddington, and Darien Rodriguez Heyman of the Craigslist Foundation in May 2008 following Social Actions’ win at the NetSquared mashup contest. We received some support at that point for our open source project of aggregated opportunities to make a difference, and I received an invitation from Craigslist Foundation to visit their office and explore opportunities to collaborate, to explain in detail how we were creating this aggregation of volunteer – of all kinds of opportunities to make a difference. Following that meeting I did follow-up with some specific suggestions on how Craigslist Foundation and Social Actions could work together on the open source project and I received a clear message from Susan declining that offer for the moment and indicating that Craigslist Foundation would be looking for additional opportunities to build something even more collaborative. In September 2008 I visited the Google headquarters in New York City and Christine and I made a presentation about Social Actions in which we explained the vision, the open and inclusive process through which our open source database is being created, and the video of that presentation which also included our XML feeds and the process was all shared. During that [presentation] – you can see the video, we’ll include it in the links – I did get a question from Google employees specifically saying, “How could Google lend its support to your open source project.” I said that I’d love to have some access to developers’ time and developers’ resources to build out and enhance and solve some of the more difficult problems as it relates to aggregating opportunities to make a difference. And then the final point I’ll make regarding this process is that in January I received a call from Craigslist Foundation and Google with a request to “pick my brain” about what projects would serve the nonprofit sector well, and a clear indication and reassurance that whatever they were building in collaboration with the Obama transition team would not recreate the wheel or produce projects that were redundant with other open source initiatives. After that, there wasn’t much communication until I brought up the subject again in April 2009 to really and intentionally discover and explore genuine opportunities to collaborate.
John Leyman, Google: Peter, this is John from Google again. I haven’t been a part of any of these discussions or even aware of them, but are there specific ways that Social Actions wants to contribute and collaborate now?
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: Yes, we’re going to be getting to that in this next section of the call.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Absolutely. Jonathan, any points of clarification or any points you’d like to add?
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: Well, I guess, to be frank, I appreciate the comments and the feedback. I think it’s fair to say that the process has not been perfect. I don’t think, I mean, I wasn’t involved in any of those conversations so it’s hard for me to disclaim them. I don’t work for the Craigslist Foundation. I don’t work for Google. I don’t work for any of these entities. I’ve been doing this on a volunteer basis, much like my service on the transition. So, with that said, things have been imperfect. We have a lot to learn, and that’s why we’re excited to be on the call today, to learn how we can be better. I think there are a lot of very relevant, salient questions being asked in the chat room. I’d rather focus on those and think about on a going forward basis how we can collaborate to benefit the sector, how we can support the communities and the organizations that are doing such great work. That’s what’s best, where I’d really like to take the conversation. I think that’s where we all win.
Ami Dar, Idealist: This is Ami again. Peter, let me sort of reiterate that again because you and I have talked and we’ve been parts of both sides of this. It’s important to understand where we are now, which is that we’ve had a process that for all kinds of reasons was a messy process that ended up annoying a few of the people that were involved in it, absolutely, including us. We’re now at a point, I think, where things have moved forward. There is a site. There is an organization behind us. There’s a lot of goodwill behind us, and I think we have to stop and think going forward, how do we go on and make the most of these resources, and how do we look ahead and try to improve the process and try to improve the product going forward, which is why I’m optimistic, looking ahead, and I’d rather not go back too much and put a focus on the methods that preceded this.
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: Ami, I’m going to take that as an invitation to share the next steps that Social Actions is taking to ensure that we are not competing aggregations and that our two systems are fully compatible, because I agree that what happened is in the past, is in the rear view mirror. Nothing’s going to change that process. Right now what we need to do is adjust to the new reality that there are two projects that are open source and have similar goals and visions for the space, and here’s a few of the things we’re going to be doing. First and foremost, we have been talking with Jonathan and Adam Sah at Google about ways in which to mirror the dataset. So Social Actions, as of later this month, will create a mirror of the very rich information about volunteer opportunities that All for Good has put together. That means we’re going to be able to add a number of new platforms to our open source database which will immediately make available to all of the web applications that have been built off of Social Actions a new, broader set of volunteer opportunities in the U.S. So that’s very exciting. We are going to be building in the capacity as well to consume XML feeds that are written for the All for Good platform so that organizations that want to partner with Social Actions and with All for Good won’t need to create two different kinds of feeds. We’ll be taking on the burden in that respect. We’ve invited Google developers, particularly Adam Sah at this point, to participate in the Social Actions Developers Google group, and we’ve also asked Adam to share with us any names of developers he thinks should be part of that conversation. While working together at the leadership level and exploring opportunities to collaborate is great, we think some really innovative and genuine collaborations will also emerge from our developer community also working closely with the All for Good developer community. We’re going to be following up with All for Good leadership going forward to ensure that they’re aware of the Social Actions dataset in its entirety and that they look to expand into other forms of action for aggregation, that they consider our API as a resource. I think an important next step for us, and one that will lead to some really fruitful collaboration, is that we’re going to be continuing to innovate ahead of the curve, and what I mean by that is working with our developer groups to come up with innovative applications that really leverage all of the tools available whether those are social networks, mobile phones, blogs, websites, media outlets, and hopefully some of the products we come up with out of our sandbox will help inspire to inspire new directions for the All for Good platform.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Peter, can I ask for a quick clarification at this point? There’s a question from Ryan on the “duplicate datasets.” Could you repeat what the message was there, provide a clarification on why that’s necessary at this stage?
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: OK. Social Actions right now doesn’t have a complete overlap in its sources with All for Good. We’re going to mirror the dataset that they have in order to add new partners and new action sources to our aggregation. All for Good, by the same token, doesn’t have all of the sources that we have contributing to its aggregation, so we welcome All for Good to recreate and mirror some of the data on our end so that they have a broader dataset of opportunities to make a difference. Does that make sense?
Ryan Scott, CauseCast: Yes.
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: Speaking to Ami’s point earlier about moving forward in a collaborative and open spirit, I am going to be doing some thinking out loud as a social entrepreneur about what it means when groups with tremendous resources enter a space in which you’ve been working for years. I think that thinking out loud about the All for Good product and what it represents in terms of opportunities for Social Actions to do more, and also the All for Good process and what that has been like, will keep the pressure on All for Good to move in a more open dialogue with our sector. Specifically what I’m looking for, in reflecting out loud, is somewhat of a product roadmap that more people can be aware of and help shape.
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: You know, Peter, this is Jonathan. I think that what I might like to say is that, again, we’re excited about the chance to collaborate. We’re excited to learn from everyone on the call. It feels a little like this format doesn’t necessarily allow all of these individual questions to be answered. So we’ll explore setting up some kind of session and invite everyone on this call to participate so that if you have questions that this format hasn’t allowed us to address we can still do that. I’ve posted my email on the Social Actions chat box. People should feel free to email me so we can follow up. I’ll also just add one last point. I really deeply respect you, Peter, and those on the call as social entrepreneurs. I think many of you know I co-founded a company called Ethos Water. It was a company that we bootstrapped. We had no investment dollars for a long time. We ran it out of my house for quite some time as well. I’ll tell you that large competitors came into our space, too, large competitors. Much more capitalized with lots more advantages in the space. And that forced us to innovate. That forced us to evolve and adapt, and I think that made our brand stronger. And eventually, those other competitors they grew the entire space. So my hope is that here, in this field, there may be a similar dynamic. All of us can benefit as more people get excited, invest more capital, bring more resources, and frankly enable more Americans and people all around the world to serve. If we can get more Americans involved in service and volunteerism, I’ll feel like all of us have accomplished something really meaningful.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Peter, with your permission, with the few minutes that we have left in this segment – at 12:45 we really do want to open it up for an open discussion again -- in responding to some of the questions on the text chat, there does seem to be more of a need for more clarification, still, on what All for Good is creating and what your roadmap would be. So Jonathan, could you spend just a couple of minutes, very briefly with some bullet points, clarifying the All for Good platform and specifically if possible what your roadmap is.
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: OK. All for Good is a free open service that, again, was built by volunteers. The intention was to make service opportunities accessible to everyone no matter where you might be, and to do so in such a way that we enlisted more and more opportunities to serve. The product – initially the product has two main features and functionality. You can see it manifest on the web page AllforGood.org, a very robust search application that, again, let’s be honest, we are fortunate to be working with some of the folks on this call and hope to extend that to embrace many, many, many more nonprofits who are either providing us with data or figuring out how to collaborate with us so we can number one, allow people to search for service opportunities in their area. Number two, we allow socialization, so we have capabilities that allow individuals to find service opportunities they’re exited about to use Facebook Connect or use the Open Social platform to share those opportunities with their quote-unquote friends, their social network. We think that’s really important, to bring the power of social networking into this space of service and volunteerism. And maybe most importantly, again, much like the marvelous product being developed by Peter and Christine at Social Actions, our product is really the API innovative spec. It is really our hope that the community centers and city hall and civic organizations and faith-based institutions and nonprofits and individuals and schools and the list goes on will be able to use our data and build on top of our platform. So they’re creating different interfaces with their own UI [user interface] and different ways to cut the data. We think that innovation is a bottom-up, decentralized process. So I’m less focused right now on what our product roadmap is and more, how do we get there. How do we get this code in the hands of the community so they can show us – much in the same way that we’ve seen with Firefox or Linux or Apache or any of the other marvelous open source initiatives – they’ll demonstrate the power of innovation and how they’re going to improve and iterate the product going forward.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Thank you, Jonathan.
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: And I’d make one last point, Christine, which is really important, that we need input to determine for how we can improve the core platform. So I say this with humility that so many people are doing such marvelous work on this call. We would welcome and we are open to your ideas. Tell us how we can collaborate. Give us your requests about where you would like to see this go. We’re excited to have that dialogue with each and every one of you.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Great. And then two specific questions taken from our chat window. One, do you have plans, or is All for Good planning to expand internationally in the scope of the actions that it aggregates from, and can you address the observation that All for Good’s development is not accurately reflected on your About Us page. Those two specific questions are coming from the community on the call.
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: Let me answer the first question and then if you could repeat the second one. In terms of the international space, it’s certainly something that we are considering. I think in large part we’ll take direction from the users. We’ll see what kind of feedback the alpha site gets, and what we’ll hear from the community, and that will help determine how we think about expanding to broader service opportunities. I know again there are folks on the call from Ashoka and other organizations doing great work in this space. We’d love to find ways to collaborate. What was the second question, Christine?
Christine Egger, Social Actions: The second one, Micah Sifry has posted. Micah, if you’d like to repeat that question verbally you’re welcome to.
Micah Sifry, Personal Democracy Forum/TechPresident: It’s socialactions.org, right?
[Difficult to hear]
Christine Egger, Social Actions: I’m sorry we’re having trouble hearing you. Try one more time and if it doesn’t come through I’ll repeat the question.
Micah Sifry, Personal Democracy Forum/TechPresident: It’s weird, I’m having trouble –
Christine Egger, Social Actions: OK. The question -- I’ll read just read it – says, “Jonathan, can you directly address Peter and Christine’s assertion that contributions to All for Good’s development have not been accurately reflected on your About Us page.”
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: I don’t agree. I’m not sure what specific point we’re talking about, and again I’m not really sure it’s the best use of everyone’s time to go line by line through the About Us page –
Phil Noble, PoliticsOnline: I don’t know if you’ve heard about this, but this whole sort of Craigslist, All for Good thing. This is a conference call that I’m on that is with about 40 or 50 people and it is –
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: Is someone asking a question?
Unidentified: I think they don’t know that we can hear them]
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Phil Noble, please mute your phone. Well again, this seems to be an appropriate time to open this up to open discussion. Again, the floor belongs to the community members on the call. I think we’ve answered the questions that I’ve seen pop up in the chat window, but please do post your questions there if I can make sure we call on you in the next 15 minutes or so, the time we have remaining. I’ve got a question here from Dave Boyer [Network for Social Responsibility]: “Jonathan, can you speak to a) the sources of your supply, your action sources; and b) your planned capabilities; c) your plans to attract traffic. So you do have the opportunity to share those three specific pieces of information with this community now if you’d like.
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: So, sources of data, what was the second point?
Christine Egger, Social Actions: I think you’re reading the window as well, you’re on the chat as well. Dave Boyer’s message there.
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: Let me pull that up.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: He’s asking for your action sources –
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: I see it, I see it. Right now, some of the parties we’re working with us to provide data include but are not limited to Idealist, Network for Good, AARP I think that’s also on the call, Hand on Network Points of Light Foundation, and a number of other organizations. Civic Ventures, Civic – there’s a lot of them. I’d have to pull up the whole list to tell you. We’re in conversation with some of the other large players in the space, specifically Truist and VolunteerMatch, looking for ways we can collaborate. So the planned capabilities of All for Good, again I think we’re really focused on getting the API and the data spec out there in the hands of developers so they can take our platform and build on top of it in different ways that make sense for executions, whether it’s a MySpace page or a town hall website or some blogger’s webpage, or etc. We’re taking advice and input as to how we can then improve the core platform and facilitate innovation. Third, we plan to attract traffic – again, in case I wasn’t clear about this, we did not build All for Good to create a destination site that would compete with some of the names that I’ve already mentioned. What we hope to do is accelerate more people to serve. We think of All for Good as a platform. In that sense we are talking with other parties right now who might want to use our tool but hope to drive eventually all those users to Idealist, to VolunteerMatch because we work with them, to Hands On Network, to AARP and to the other organizations with whom we’re collaborating. That’s really the goal, to promote those brands and simply use All for Good as a platform that allows that to happen.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Thank you. I’d like to open it again for open discussion. If anyone has anything to add, we have just about 15 minutes.
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: Does Micah have a question we didn’t have a chance to answer before?
Micah Sifry, Personal Democracy Forum/TechPresident: I’m sorry, I’m in a very noisy place. I’m going to unmute and ask it again because I think you said you thought it wasn’t worth discussing but it seems to me that the question is: has All for Good in its About page properly given credit to Social Actions for its contributions towards the development of your project? Please address that.
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: Well, I think that, as mentioned earlier – I’d have to go back and look, Micah, at the About Us page and look at it line for line and what it says about or not about Social Actions and you know, to be frank I haven’t done that –
Micah Sifry, Personal Democracy Forum/TechPresident: The last I looked it doesn’t say anything, so I guess the question is, should it?
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: That’s certainly something we can think about. Again, I wasn’t involved directly in conversations with Social Actions when we wrote the initial project requirements for this, nor did I know about Social Actions at that time, nor have our developers been working with them. I mean, I have enormous respect for the work that Social Actions is doing and I think I’m excited about the collaboration. They weren’t involved in this process at the earliest stages.
Micah Sifry, Personal Democracy Forum/TechPresident: Peter, do you want to comment?
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: I like – I prefer to just post what I was earlier regarding my interactions with the different players involved that created All for Good. I don’t want this to focus entirely on the back story. I do want to request Jonathan’s and Ami’s request that we look forward to what can truly serve the nonprofit sector. Going forward, I see building out All for Good platform in the open. Not requesting that people submit formed information and then review it, but really create a wiki for the All for Good platform and where it could go. I think that would be a tremendous contribution, Jonathan. And I also will say that Social Actions has every intent to gather groups like this in the future, everyone on this call, to explore what genuine collaboration can and should look like in the nonprofit tech community both from the technical perspective like XML feeds, APIs, etc. but also from a mission-focused perspective. So we will be sending out invites to additional calls like this in which there’s room for exploring what genuine collaboration looks like. I would respond quickly to one thing that Jonathan said around his experience with Ethos Water. The fact is, in our sector, there is a tremendous amount of competition already. Social Actions is committed to not innovating based on competition, but innovating through collaboration with other entities whether they’re our platform partners, developer opportunities, or other aggregations. I’ll make the point as well that we do recognize that for all of our missions to be fulfilled, to move volunteerism and philanthropy forward, there should be many aggregations in this ecosystem. So we welcome All for Good in that respect and we’re excited to see other aggregations emerge. What we don’t want to see happen is for each new aggregation of volunteer opportunities or other kinds of action to add to the burden and the time and attention required from the contributing platforms. If that makes sense or not I can elaborate further. Basically we don’t feel that platforms who are serving nonprofits directly should have to spend more – there should be systems in place to make new aggregations form on the fly that doesn’t require time and attention from each and every platform when new aggregations come about.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Let me convey a question that’s come from the text chat from Rolf Kleef, who’s calling in from the Netherlands on NABUUR. Rolf, I’ll allow you to make your contribution directly if the connection is good.
Rolf Kleef, NABUUR: OK I just have to unmute my microphone. We had a couple of discussions here in the Netherlands between different platforms also about exchanging information in whatever way possible. Apart from all kinds of standards that are available or can be developed, a lot of issues that came up were about privacy and kind of legal issues of getting data in social networks from one platform onto another, and the lack of a standard in that area or emerging standard, something like Creative Commons for copyright, but then for privacy or something. I’d be curious to know whether Social Actions or All for Good is doing anything in that direction.
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: I think it’s probably more of a question for Jonathan than for us. Our scope is really limited to aggregation of the opportunities themselves and distribution, and the All for Good platform does have the opportunity to track your actions, your volunteer opportunities that you like, and then share them with friends. So privacy might be more of an issue that Jonathan can speak to.
Christine Egger, Social Actions. OK. Kevin with CharityCHAMPS has a question on the chat. Kevin, if you’re able to unmute and ask that question directly that’d be helpful. I’ll give you just a moment to do so and then I’ll repeat the question. [Pause] Kevin from CharityCHAMPS is asking for a commitment from All for Good to synergize with Social Actions, to connect with us on the resources, which I this is what we’re hearing –
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: All for Good – just so we’re clear – All for Good is a volunteer effort. We don’t have – the nonprofit entity that has been created we don’t have a whole lot of resources. Everyone like myself, like with this call today, is just volunteering their time. I think what we are committed to do is to grow the sector and committed to explore ways to collaborate with everyone. So I don’t know if I would say our goal is to get any one player additional resources. What I would rather see us do is explore ways to work together, to give everyone an opportunity to enable more Americans to serve, because at the end of the day, I think our highest priority is not our selves on this call, it’s the communities that we’re attempting to serve, and it’s not our self-preservation, it’s how do we grow this space and engage more Americans and the broader citizenry in service. So we’re excited to form partnerships that help us to achieve that objective.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Thank you. We’re opening back up again. I haven’t caught any new questions on the chat but please feel free to unmute and speak up or raise your hand with the text window if you’d like.
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: Christine, what about yourself? Do you have a question for Jonathan or any observations? You’ve been involved in this process as well.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: No observations – well, no, no observations. I do appreciate, Jonathan, your RSVPing for the call this morning, and we’ve created a profile for All for Good as one of our platform partners on the site and are glad to be including you in the conversations going forward.
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: That’s great, and again I would say – I don’t know how much time we have left – I would simply reciprocate. I would say that I’ve had the chance to spend a little bit of time with Peter a few times on the phone, and more recently in Los Angeles where I’m based, and I’m excited for the chance to learn more from Social Actions, and again to learn more from everyone on this call. At the end of the day I feel like the tone is a little bit difficult but I know we’re all committed to the same objectives which is how do we get more Americans to serve, how do we strengthen our communities by using our technologies and other services to make them better, and I think that the fact that we share those missions I hope we can work together to achieve those aims.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Great, thank you. JD Lasica is on the line. JD, if you have a chance to unmute you have a question about the next steps that are being taken. I know that Peter outlined some earlier, but do you have some specific questions about what you hope to see? Again, I’ll wait just a moment for you to unmute if you’re able to.
JD Lasica, SocialBrite.org: Christine, are you able to hear me?
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Yes, thank you.
JD Lasica, SocialBrite: Yes, I was just wondering specifically for any of the organizations who are involved, who are on this chat, on this call, are their specific next steps that are being suggested for us to go forward, beyond spreading the word and talking with our developers about getting involved with the API. What are the collaborative opportunities that we’re talking about here?
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Peter?
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: I’ve sent a number of collaborative opportunities to Jonathan and to Google developers. The one that we’ve honed in on is that between Social Actions and All for Good there is an opportunity to mirror datasets, and unfortunately we haven’t honed in on an opportunity to advocate together for universal standards that help publish opportunities to make a difference, nor have we come up with a way to really make the resources to developers to ensure that they are fully aware of widgets and applications that have been developed off of the Social Actions API that might come in handy when developing All for Good applications. Possibly, a shout-out to the Social Actions toolkit would be helpful in the developer section for All for Good. But I’m going to be following up specifically with Jonathan on those sorts of opportunities.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Joe Solomon is asking, Jonathan, if you could share – actually let me pause for a second – JD, did that answer your question?
JD Lasica, SocialBrite: Sure, as long as there’s follow up and we can figure out how to contribute to this going forward.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Sure. We’ll be pursuing it as much as we’re allowed. Joe Solomon’s question, Jonathan, if you can address this, is sharing the appspot link for the All for Good or Footprint code. That’s certainly something we can include with the notes if that’s not something that you have on hand right now.
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: I’m trying to pull it up, will see if I can.
Joe Solomon, EngageJoe.com: Jonathan, I’m happy to add the link. I have it.
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: Who’s that, is that Peter?
Joe Solomon, EngageJoe.com: This is Joe Solomon.
Jonathan Greenblatt, All for Good: OK, great.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Rolf Kleef, earlier, was looking for specific links to the API and source code and we’ll distribute those as best as we’re able to as well. We’ve got just about three minutes before we come to the top of the hour. Are there any final words or questions or suggestions? We do look forward to convening additional conference calls on this and related topics going forward, so we’ll share some dates quickly with the notes. Anybody would like to take advantage of the last few minutes we have available here?
George Weiner, DoSomething: Hi, this is George from DoSomething.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Hi, George.
George Weiner, DoSomething: I just have a quick question I posted in the comments. I wondered what you guys have coming up in the roadmap for vetting teen-specific volunteer opportunities for safety and quality.
Jonathan: We’re sourcing the opportunities directly from our partners, like Idealist and Network for Good, the Hands On Network, etc. so they’re doing some measure of vetting on their own for those kinds of opportunities. I would be very open to talking with you and Nancy, think about how we can do a better job of doing that, site provides service that’s safe and secure for all ages. So let’s make that a point to follow up on. To that end, to follow up on that specifically or anything else, I’ve posted my email address in the chat room. I’ll repeat it out loud for people to hear. It’s jonathan dot greenblatt at gmail dot com. I’m extremely open to talking with all of you and following up on this call to make sure that if you have questions that I was not able to answer or if you want to talk specifically about aspects of All for Good, and just in the interest of continuing the dialogue, I’d be delighted to correspond with you.
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: Along those lines I’ll add that we will be posting the notes from this call on My Social Actions which is our social network, and I’d encourage also to post questions or feedback from the call and ideas on how our sector can be served through intentional collaborations. On that blog post, there’s definitely something to be gained from having these conversations and doing these follow-ups very much out in the open.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: With that, we’ll wrap up at the top of the hour here. And again thank you sincerely to every single one of you for joining this call and for making time for this conversation today. We will let you know as soon as notes have been posted, and as Peter said please don’t hesitate to follow up with us in the meantime with any questions or requests and thank you again. This is Christine Egger and on behalf of Social Actions, thank you very much for joining the call.
Tom Dawkins, Ashoka: Thank you so much for organizing this.
Peter Deitz, Social Actions: You’re very welcome. Thank you.
Christine Egger, Social Actions: Take care, everybody.
Transcript ~ text chat
08:47 Tom W. [Wanted to make sure you saw this] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/all-for-good-a-new-craigs_b_208407.html
08:48 ChristineEgger We did ~ welcome Tom ~
08:51 Peter Hi Tom, Dean, and Christine
08:52 Peter Hi Tom, I haven't read the Huff Post piece yet -- just found out about it through Christine
08:52 Peter I'll have a look after the call
08:57 Peter Deitz Tom and Dean, Feel free to join the call -- we already have VMatch on the call
08:57 Tom W. I'll be there!
08:57 Peter Deitz Conference Dial-in Number: 616 597-8000 Participant Access Code: 1002410#
09:00 Dean I am calling in now
09:00 Dean Just so that you know, Tamzin apologises - she has had to attend to an urgent matter and asked that I apologise for her.
09:01 ChristineEgger Please click "edit nickname" so your real name appears next to your message
09:02 Peter Deitz Hi everyone,
09:02 Peter Deitz Thanks for joining the call
09:06 Tom D. Hi all, Tom here from Ashoka
09:06 jacob colker Jacob from Extraordinaries here
09:06 Tom Steinberg Tom Steinberg, mySociety - Ashoka fellow :)
09:06 Beverley Pomeroy Bev from Pinc
09:06 Mike Everett-Lane is someone playing the piano?
09:06 Romina Hi everyone, Romina from NABUUR.com :)
09:06 Jo Anne from TakingITGlobal Hello this is Jo Anne from TakingITGlobal www.TIGweb.org
09:06 Tom W. Tom Watson from CauseWired - hey all
09:06 Francisco Pereira – TIG Hi Francisco Pereira from TakingITGLobal
09:06 Mike Everett-Lane it might be hold music?
09:06 Tom D. Hi Tom! I'm a huge fan of mySociety, great to have you here.
09:06 Mike_Lee_aarp Mike Lee from the AARP.org web team
09:07 Sebastian – Razoo I think the main line was muted
09:07 Romina is the line muted?
09:07 Tom Steinberg And there's the piano again
09:07 Better The World Mark from Better The World - happy to be on the call.
09:07 Dean - SA Social Investment Exchange Dean Hand from SA Social Investment Exchange
09:08 celine takatsuno hi everyone - great to see so many people here, happy to be here
09:08 Tom W. Hi Jonathan - glad you're here
09:08 Dean - SA Social Investment Exchange no objections to recording
09:09 Jonathan Greenblatt thanks Tom, I am delighted to be here! its an amazing group of people
09:09 Parul NGO Post Hi all .. this is Parul from NGOpost.org .. we are a community for sharing social welfare news and ideas
09:09 Beverley Pomeroy imagine if we had a meeting like this once a week, the impact we would have on the world...amazing
09:09 Rolf Kleef Rolf Kleef here, from Amsterdam - fighting with Meebo...
09:09 Scott Stadum Scott Stadum from Idealist.org
09:09 jacob colker Hey scott!
09:10 Tom W. Yeah it really is - amazing brainpower and commitment!
09:10 sundeep sundeep from kiva here
09:10 Cesar – DonorsChoose.org Cesar from DonorsChoose.org
09:10 Tom W. Sundeep - congrats on USA initiatve!
09:10 Parul NGOPost.org yes, this call was a great idea!
09:10 Deron Triff (Changents.com) Hi Sundeep. Hope all is well..
09:10 ChristineEgger Welcome Cesar, everyone ~ Thank you, Parul!
09:13 Tom Steinberg "an open source database of opportunities to do good, within the volunteerism sector in the US"
09:13 Dean - SA Social Investment Exchange what was that foundation?
09:13 ChristineEgger Dean, Craigslist Foundation
09:14 Dean - SA Social Investment Exchange tx
09:18 Parul NGOPost.org scott - I am a big fan of idealist.org .. also saw the new new idealistnews .. would like to speak to you about it sometime
09:18 Deron Triff (Changents.com) Could Jonathan describe the platform?
09:19 Beverley Pomeroy who led this initiative initially?
09:20 Tom Steinberg I think there needs to be some clarity about how all the different volunteering databases in the US are going to interrelate
09:20 Jonathan Greenblatt I can describe the platform
09:20 Jonathan Greenblatt I woulud be happy to do that if christine mhgt allow us to do it
09:20 Tom Steinberg in the UK we've seen poor coordination between 'rival' volunteering databases, especially when politicians wake up and decide they need a new one
09:21 Beverley Pomeroy How do you get involved with the platform or find more information to get involved?
09:22 Rolf Kleef is there a link for the xml and api documentation?
09:22 Better The World What type of Partners is all for Good looking for i.e. (content , members, ideas etc...) and what's the process to follow up to get involved?
09:22 Sebastian - Razoo I would also like to see/understand the platform:it sounds vague
09:22 Jonathan Greenblatt I would be delighted to answer these questions
09:23 Tom Steinberg Worth describing the platform using the question "How does it help citizens do things they can't otehrwise?"
09:23 Jonathan Greenblatt This is strange. do you want me to respond?
09:23 ChristineEgger Rolf, we'll describe the technical pending links soon
09:23 Tom Steinberg We need to know what it *IS* before we can understand people's experience, really
09:24 Dawn-DreamBank Is this only for non-profits and volunteer acts? We are hybrid trying to bring change in a different way and not sure if we fit here or not.
09:24 Tom Steinberg Please explain what it is!
09:24 Tom Steinberg And how it is NOT like other platforms... :)
09:24 Siegfried Will All for Good be open to international civic engagement opportunities?
09:25 Jonathan Greenblatt Again, I am pleased to answer these questions.
09:25 Beverley Pomeroy all for good platform auto picks up your internet connection and displays closest city, similar to craigslist
09:25 Beverley Pomeroy interesting
09:26 Parul NGOPost.org is there any plan to expand it to geos outside the U.S?
09:29 ChristineEgger Siegfried and Parul, will make sure to forward your question re: international expansion
09:29 Beverley Pomeroy I don't want this to become exactly what the criticism is in the nonprofit world, competitive feelings create barriers
09:30 Rolf Kleef +1 Beverly
09:31 Romina I share your sentiments, Beverley
09:31 ChristineEgger Dawn, has your question been answered regarding the scope of All for Good's actions?
09:31 Rachel - Apathy is Boring can we get rid of the spammer, please?
09:31 Jonathan Greenblatt I have not had a chance to answer Dawn's questions
09:31 Dawn-DreamBank thx christine, not yet.
09:32 Sebastian - Razoo why, long-term, would any platform other than allforgood need to exist?
09:32 Beverley Pomeroy Jonathan, how do we contact you for conversation beyond this chat room?
09:32 Jonathan Greenblatt it seems like it would be useful to use the presence of all these organizations to answer tehir questions rather than spend time talking about events taht took place more than 12 mos ago
09:32 ChristineEgger This is an open forum so cannot get rid of spammers. Apologies for the distraction
09:32 Mike Everett-Lane you can scroll to their name and hit "block"
09:32 Sebastian - Razoo I would imagine it will have a huge marketing push - and over time - why would any end-user decide to go anywhere else?
09:32 ChristineEgger Jonathan, the purpose of this call is to create a public record of our experiences with All for Good, as well as to outline steps we're taking going forward.
09:32 Ryan whats he saying that the dataset will be duplicated? whats the point of that
09:32 Sebastian - Razoo it looks really impressive though
09:33 mgifford Not sure ifit's been brought up yet, but I was curious about interaction with http://openwiser.org/
09:33 Jonathan Greenblatt I am open to collaborate wtih everyhone on this call as I am not sure that this format has allowed the group to rasie questions and explore opportunities for collaboration - you can reach me at jonathan.greenblatt-at-gmail-dot-com
09:34 Deron Triff (Changents.com) Christine, could we take a step back and have Jonathan describe the vision for All for Good? We understand the politics, but can we get a better understanding of All for Good. We can talk about integration later.
09:34 Jonathan Greenblatt again, please feel free to email me so that we can set up time to engage and explore what might be possible
09:34 celine takatsuno mirroring and shared feed format are critical to lifting the space and collaboration - terrific
09:34 Sebastian - Razoo Jonathan - what's your email address?
09:34 Jonathan Greenblatt and perhaps we will arrange some type of call
09:34 ChristineEgger Deron, will definitely make room for that during the open discussion -- thanks --
09:34 Jonathan Greenblatt jonathan-dot-greenblatt-at-gmail-com
09:35 Beverley Pomeroy donors want choice of action...so aggragation of all our platforms can only help, and long term...make a bigger impact on our world, in our communities
09:37 MicahSifry Jonathan et al: Can you directly address Peter and Christine's assertion that their contribution to All for Good's devt isn't reflected accurately on your "About" page
09:39 ChristineEgger Micah, thank you for the question. Will be prompting this momentarily.
09:39 Mike Everett-Lane will the AFG platform focus on volunteering only?
09:39 Dave Boyer - Network for Social Responsibility Is there an advanced search featuere? Or just the one text box?
09:39 Rolf Kleef so to repeat my question: where do I find the code, the API, etc? just a link please :-)
09:40 Sebastian - Razoo at the very bottom of the site - click on "about us"- and a request for api is there
09:41 Ryan Scott - Causecast.org afg is just volunteering, at least for now, from what i understand
09:41 joesolomon collaborate by exploring open standards - then everybody can go to town
09:41 JDLasica Beyond today's recording, is this the best place to find a summary of this initiative? http://www.allforgood.org/about
09:41 MicahSifry too noisy here
09:41 Beverley Pomeroy anyone interested in having a regular call like this to discuss our mutual desire to do good online and create a linkedIn group or something?
09:41 Jonathan Greenblatt i will send a link with the code
09:42 MicahSifry i'm sorry, but i'm in a very noisy room
09:42 Beverley Pomeroy It would help with situations like this so we all contribute to the greater good, same mandate
09:42 MicahSifry someone tell Phil Noble to mute his phone
09:42 AndySternberg *6 to mute Phil
09:43 Dave Boyer - Network for Social Responsibility Jonathan, can you speak to: a) the sources of supply (i.e. handson, volunteer match, RSS feeds, etc, b) planned capabilities, c) plans to attract traffic.
09:43 Dave Boyer - Network for Social Responsibility planned "search capabilities"
09:44 Tom Steinberg My question, as an outsider in Europe: What was the failure of previous volunteering sites that meant the US market needed a new site?
09:44 Mike Everett-Lane I think a regular forum would be great -- we'd be happy to host it (although perhaps not with Meebo...)
09:44 Mike Everett-Lane we = Social Actions
09:45 ChristineEgger Absolutely, Mike, we definitely look forward to convening regular conversations on these particular developments in the sector, as well as the broader work we're all involved in
09:45 Dave Boyer - Network for Social Responsibility Thanks!
09:47 Siegfried can we move on
09:47 Ryan Scott - Causecast.org indignance is not a strategy and its wasting time.
09:47 Ryan Scott - Causecast.org move on
09:47 Rolf Kleef +1
09:47 DOSOMETHING QUESTION: What are you doing to ensure quality/safety of your opportunities especially for teens?
09:47 Mike_Lee_aarp Love the open wiki idea.
09:47 Tom W. Regular conversations like this one could be a homerun for the whole sector - I do think SA should be recognized for its leadership
09:48 ChristineEgger Let us know if there are additional questions about the technical steps we'll be taking
09:49 Kevin-CharityCHAMPS christine, did you get my question?
09:49 Beverley Pomeroy competitive switch to co-opetition... :)
09:49 Rolf Kleef we had a couple of inter-platform discussions here in the Netherlands in the last week, overarching issue that came up (apart from standards) was also about privacy and other legal and organisational "alignment" -- is any work being done on that?
09:49 ChristineEgger I'm sorry, Kevin, I didn't. Can you repeat here?
09:49 Dean - SA Social Investment Exchange Christine, I am going to sign out - might well pick up with you offline and perhaps with johnaton. Also interested in further collaboration. Have found some of the discussion for our context here in South Africa
09:49 Jonathan Greenblatt I would be open to responding to each question if people can send them to me directly or reach out to talk via phone
09:50 ChristineEgger Thank you, Dean ~
09:50 Beverley Pomeroy data 'ownership' is important, good question
09:51 Kevin-CharityCHAMPS Jonathan: We're all trying to do good things here, and All for Good has managed to achieve great access to resources. Since there seem to be such synergies with Social Actions, will you be committed to helping them connect with such resources?
09:51 Beverley Pomeroy beyond the surface of any platform data is a very coveted
09:51 Kevin-CharityCHAMPS (For example the google developers that Peter asked for in his TechTalk, although I'm sure they know better)
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09:52 Kevin-CharityCHAMPS sorry, hard to unmute here
09:52 Beverley Pomeroy why reinvent the wheel...All for Good and SA could bring their solution, their technology and platforms together
09:53 DOSOMETHING What are you doing to vet opportunities especially for teens?
09:53 Ryan Scott - Causecast.org @DOSOMETHING - Causecast is working on this
09:53 JDLasica what are next steps?
09:54 Mark Bachman - Better The World it would be great if there was a call for partners with some details on what types of partners fit.
09:54 DOSOMETHING was this discussed? @ryan
09:54 Tom W. RT @jdlasica what are the next steps?
09:56 joesolomon Jonathon: Can you share the appspot link the allforgood/footprint code?
09:56 ChristineEgger Great suggestion, Mark, we look forward to doing so ~
09:57 Mike_Lee_aarp easy: Google "google allforgood"
09:57 rachel weidinger Would an independent standars setting collaborative be useful?
09:57 Jonathan Greenblatt http://www.allforgood.org/docs/api.html
09:57 Rolf Kleef rachel: that was one of the sggestions here in The Netherlands too
09:58 JDLasica It would be nice to get a list of all the participants on this call, including links to their organizations/initiatives, if that's possible.
09:58 joesolomon Jonathon - That link doesnt seem to go to the code
09:58 rachel weidinger I'm definitely thinking it might accellerate our getting more awesome done faster. :)
09:59 Mike_Lee_aarp http://code.google.com/p/footprint2009dev/
09:59 joesolomon Thanks Mike!
09:59 Ryan Scott - Causecast.org linkedin group
09:59 Mark Bachman - Better The World Great idea getting all of these players together. Very tough format. Thanks for the effort everyone. Exciting to hear all the good uses of social media for social good.
09:59 MicahSifry Thanks for putting this together. Appreciate everyone's openness.
10:00 Ryan Scott - Causecast.org thanks everyone!
10:00 AndySternberg thanks everyone
10:00 Dawn-DreamBank thanks for makingit happen sa!
10:00 celine takatsuno thanks for organizing this!
10:00 Rolf Kleef thanks!
10:00 Mike_Lee_aarp thanks. really hope this dialog continues
10:00 ChristineEgger Thank you, everyone. Feel free to continue to use this chat window to post additional thoughts/ questions ~ we'll fold all of them into future open discussions ~
10:01 Romina thanks for organizing this. looking forward to more discussions. bye, everyone!
10:01 Kevin-CharityCHAMPS thanks, christine
10:01 Siegfried many thanks. wonderful way to drink a whiskey (19.00 hrs here) and take part in an important conversation
10:02 Tom W. Agreed on 'important conversation' - this sector needs more group discussions!
10:02 Mike Everett-Lane how often would a group call / chat like this be useful? Every other week?
10:05 ChristineEgger Good question, Mike. Ideas?
10:16 ChristineEgger FYI we'll be posting a full set of comprehensive notes, and list of participants, as soon as possible. Looking forward to connecting again soon ~
10:23 ChristineEgger Suzanne Perry has just posted an article about the All for Good initiative on the Chronicle of Philanthropy site:
10:23 ChristineEgger http://tr.im/oisz